# Faring the outer seams

**URL:** <https://forum.clcboats.com/t/faring-the-outer-seams/49358>\
**Category:** Builder's Forum\
**Created:** [February 14, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/faring-the-outer-seams/49358 "2022-02-14T12:48:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![David\_Knutson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d78d45/32.png) [@David\_Knutson](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/David_Knutson)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/faring-the-outer-seams/49358/1 "2022-02-14T12:48:04Z")

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Hi all.&nbsp; Working on my WD12 and at the stage where the next step is sanding the hull.&nbsp; &nbsp;There are a few places where the seams are not smooth and have small gaps/valleys.&nbsp; I suspect I need to fill these in prior to sanding/glassing, but I'm not sure what to use - a wood flour mix or silica mix.&nbsp; Wood flour seems darker than the surrounding wood, but the silica shows up as white.&nbsp; Suggestions for handling this?

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Jacobs](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.clcboats.com/ryan_jacobs/32/569_2.png) [@Ryan\_Jacobs](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Ryan_Jacobs)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/faring-the-outer-seams/49358/2 "2022-02-15T00:47:42Z")

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I don't have a whole lot of direct experience on this but in a [previous thread](https://www.clcboats.com/forum/clcforum/thread/54010.html) Bubblehead made a comment about filling stitch holes with a mix of **both** cellofil and wood flour to approximate the okume color. Perhaps that could help in your case. I experimented with this a bit and found that 2 parts unthikened epoxy plus 1 part wood flour and 1 part cellofil creates a decent color match. It's not perfect but it did help blend my stitch holes, a couple panel gaps and one unsightly gash I made in the middle a shear panel with my utility knife (I accidentally cut into it a bit when zipping away the excess fiberglass hanging over the dried hull). For that latter case I was surprised to be able to blend the filler so evenly in color that is almost disappears into the grain pattern of the panel. I suppose this was aided by the fact that the gash was a bit irregular in shape, whereas the clean lines of the stich holes and panel gaps do make the fill color contrast a bit more noticeable.

I was also worried that the whiteish nature of the cellofil content would show through. However, as long as I carefully smoothed the fill and surrounding wood with a putty knife while wet, and sanded a bit when dry, things turned out pretty good. I didn't notice any discoloration in the wood surrounding the fill after the epoxy/glass application.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Richards](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.clcboats.com/jeff_richards/32/29_2.png) [@Jeff\_Richards](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Jeff_Richards)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/faring-the-outer-seams/49358/3 "2022-02-15T08:18:11Z")

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&nbsp; &nbsp;Just like rjacobs said, I've found the cellofil and wood flour mix works pretty well.&nbsp; Avoid getting much out onto surrounding wood, and use a good strong putty knife to remove as much excess as possible to limit sanding.&nbsp; And then when the glue is hard, sand over everything down to clear wood surrounding the filled area.&nbsp; If the filled area is just slightly darker than the surrounding wood, you've got the color right, as when the epoxy coat goes on the surrounding wood it gets darker, too.&nbsp;Most things will pretty much disappear by the time they are glassed over using this technique.&nbsp;

I haven't tried it, but next time where I'm just filling stitch holes or little imperfections I think I'll test out a microspheres and wood flour mix, to make the sanding that much easier (even though sanding filled stitch holes is really easy relative to all other sanding on these boats).&nbsp; For the slightly structural areas like your seams, I'd stick with cellofil/wood flour.
