# Madness

**URL:** <https://forum.clcboats.com/t/madness/38443>\
**Category:** Builder's Forum\
**Created:** [May 10, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/madness/38443 "2011-05-10T09:05:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mark\_Thomasson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c67d28/32.png) [@Mark\_Thomasson](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Mark_Thomasson)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/madness/38443/1 "2011-05-10T09:05:01Z")

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John,&nbsp;

Just love Madness,&nbsp; an inspiration t us all.

&nbsp;Having been intrigued by Proas for some time, I look forward to hearing how Madness performs.

One question on the design criterior.&nbsp; Is she designed for in-shore /coastal or out to sea?&nbsp; Those&nbsp; lightweight bulkhead look amazing, but at the small increase in weigth, could be watertight bulkheads.&nbsp; Is there any floatation foam?&nbsp; Any thoughts on the dreaded subject of capsize retrieval?

Interesting to hear you view on resitance of the rudder / boards to collision.&nbsp; On the subject I have considered, rather than placing the trunk centrally, it is against one side,&nbsp; such that the side of the hull is formed by the trunk. The whole held in by very strong elastic.&nbsp; Could actually be easier to build.

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**Author:** ![John\_C\_Harris](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.clcboats.com/john_c_harris/32/760_2.png) [@John\_C\_Harris](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/John_C_Harris)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/madness/38443/2 "2011-05-11T17:37:32Z")

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\>\>\>One question on the design criterior.&nbsp; Is she designed for in-shore coastal or out to sea?&nbsp;

This boat is designed for coastal cruising or island hopping.&nbsp; I don’t think there are ANY 1000-pound multihulls "designed for offshore sailing" by definition, though many people do it anyway.&nbsp; I won’t be one of them.

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\>\>\>Those&nbsp; lightweight bulkhead look amazing, but at the small increase in weigth, could be watertight bulkheads.&nbsp; Is there any floatation foam?\>\>\>\>

There are several watertight bulkheads, designed to handle the very high torsional loads of a multihull.&nbsp; They aren’t lightweight at all—they are very heavily fiberglassed. &nbsp;

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\>\>\>Any thoughts on the dreaded subject of capsize retrieval?

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If you capsize any 31-foot multihull—trimaran, catamaran, or proa—you’re going to need outside help.&nbsp; My plan is to not capsize. &nbsp;

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\>\>\>\>Interesting to hear you view on resitance of the rudder / boards to collision.&nbsp; On the subject I have considered, rather than placing the trunk centrally, it is against one side,&nbsp; such that the side of the hull is formed by the trunk. The whole held in by very strong elastic.&nbsp; Could actually be easier to build.\>\>\>\>\>

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The foils on Madness will endure a collision as well any other boat of similar weight and power.&nbsp; The trunks couldn’t be oriented against the side of the boat as the sides are curving inwards towards the bow at that location, and flaring outwards.&nbsp; They’ll only work on the hull centerlines.

Got the cabin top 'glassed last night.&nbsp; Picking up a trailer tomorrow; soon the boat heads out for finish work!

![](http://www.clcboats.com/images/Cabin_Pod_Thumb.jpg)

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