# staples in strip built

**URL:** <https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696>\
**Category:** Builder's Forum\
**Created:** [November 22, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696 "2014-11-22T21:32:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paul\_Fazio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@Paul\_Fazio](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Paul_Fazio)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/1 "2014-11-22T21:32:01Z")

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&nbsp;Is there an alternative to stapling the strips on the deck of a shearwater hybrid sport.&nbsp; Such as taping or using tie downs.&nbsp; Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![Joel\_Zackin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@Joel\_Zackin](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Joel_Zackin)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/2 "2014-11-24T18:53:18Z")

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There was an article in Wooden Boat Mag a bunch of years ago (5 or 7?) about using fishing line as a method of holding the strips while the glue dried. The author liked fishing line because he could cut it and the part in the seam would 'disappear'.

I have not tried this method, just read the article.

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**Author:** ![David\_Poole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@David\_Poole](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/David_Poole)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/3 "2014-11-25T08:12:12Z")

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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have seen articles using tape, and straps to hold the strips till the glue dries.

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Go down the list and look for Building a scratch built canoe, by Spilinterz45.&nbsp; He's a former cabinet builder. He did quite of job of posting pictures. You'll find that he used clamps, straps and bungees.

Also.....as I tell the wife, a man can never have too many clamps.

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**Author:** ![Howard\_Spira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ec9cab/32.png) [@Howard\_Spira](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Howard_Spira)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/4 "2014-11-26T07:51:59Z")

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the short answer is 'yes' -- you can do strips without staples.&nbsp; it does, however, elongate the process.

there are a number of specific techniques that can be applied....and they come into play at different times during the process.&nbsp;&nbsp; the book [http://www.clcboats.com/shop/products/boat-building-books-kayaking-dvds/strip-built-sea-kayak-nick-schade.html](http://www.clcboats.com/shop/products/boat-building-books-kayaking-dvds/strip-built-sea-kayak-nick-schade.html)&nbsp;sold by CLC has an overall good treatment of the strip built process and a page or two on strip-less techniques.

any specific technique will accomplish two tasks....holding the strip firmly against the form and pushing the strip up along another strip.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; however different techniques help deal with certain challenges such as no adjacent strip or not a lot of room around the strip....or lots of hold power required vs light pressure.

the basic approaches are:

- bands/bungees&nbsp; - anchor holes are drilled in the forms (follorwing the ouside perimeter)&nbsp;to provide an anchor for bands/bungees....bands wrap out and around a strip and pull it back onto the form

- tape -&nbsp; works well when there is another strip already well anchored and you want to close up any gaps between adjacent strips.....can also be used like a band

- hot glue gun&nbsp; -- temporary bond of&nbsp;a strip to a form.....a bit difficult to remove but good for places with little adjacent room and where you have access to the underside upon completion to use a knife to break the 'temporary' bond

- clamps -- U-shaped wood pieces are clamped with c-clamps to the form and the opening of the U holds a strip against the form and the U shaped wood provides a clamping surface that the c-clamp can attach to the form.

- sacrificial stapled strip -- a few strips are stapled to provide anchor points.&nbsp; when the structure is built around them (usually only to one side) the staples strip is removed and replaced with a non-stapled strip, usually held by tape and bands.

i would also recommend looking around the kayak forum [http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Building/index.cgi](http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Building/index.cgi)&nbsp; which is mostly used by strip builders......a little search there will show up a number of pictures.

good luck!

howard

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**Author:** ![Paul\_Fazio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@Paul\_Fazio](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Paul_Fazio)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/5 "2014-11-26T20:57:42Z")

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&nbsp;Thanks for all the info.&nbsp; It is what I love about this forum!&nbsp;

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**Author:** ![Robert\_Hennigar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4491bb/32.png) [@Robert\_Hennigar](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Robert_Hennigar)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/6 "2014-11-29T12:53:22Z")

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Howard nailed it.

I just finished stripping a soloMicrobootlegger and used the "clamps" approach that he mentioned above. At each section I used the clamp to hold the strip tightly to the previously fastened strip. In between stations, I then used three, evenly spaced, pieces of the green 3M tape -it's for concrete construction and holds much better than the usual blue stuff. it does make a difference, use the green!&nbsp;

On Nick Shade's site there are many great videos which you can take a look at that show many great building techniques, this being one of them. Look in the Free "How To" link...&nbsp;http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/guillemot/

In short, it worked great and I don't have any staples to deal with, and the surface is nice and clean.&nbsp;

Cheers!

Rob

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**Author:** ![Robert\_Hennigar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4491bb/32.png) [@Robert\_Hennigar](https://forum.clcboats.com/u/Robert_Hennigar)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.clcboats.com/t/staples-in-strip-built/42696/7 "2014-11-29T12:55:06Z")

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Sorry, I'm note sure if I can edit my previous post. His name, properly spelled, is Nick Schade. It needed to be corrected!

Rob
